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Hi All
Just wanted to speak to others who may have been through a similar situation. I was diagnosed with tongue cancer (early stages) in Octber and have had two lots of surgery. One to do another biopsy the last was to laser off the surface of about 1/4 of my tongue.
Was wondering if anyone has had this done and how sensitive their tongue was afterwards. I had the op in December and my tongue is still incredibly sensitive to all things especially the cold.

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Hi Sahara

Your docs lasered off part of the surface of your tongue? That's a treatment I've never heard of. I imagine it must be like burning it really badly with soup or some other very hot substance. Regular burns can take a while to heal, so I'd guess this would too. Once I started eating bog people food again, I noticed that my flap was less sensitive to high temperatures than the "native" side of my tongue but didn't take cold too well.

Above all, Sahara, be patient. You're roughly a month post-op and it will get better.

Sorry I couldn't give you any better advice.

Julia

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Hi Sahara, didn't have anything done to my tongue so cant offer any info there but welcome to the forum. Hagg.


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Hello Saraha

I don't think we have enough information about side-effects following laser surgery. As the nerves in the tongue gets damaged by the surgery, you could expect the reactions you describe. It should improve with time. You may need tp avoid whatever aggravates the sensations. Peter's story refers to him having laser surgery.

Best wishes

Vinod Coffee


Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice.

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Laser surgery can be used to treat cancer in two ways by shrinking or destroying a tumor with heat, or by activating a chemical - known as a photosensitizing agent - that destroys cancer cells. Minimally invasive laser surgery has long been used for untreated small, localized (stage I) cancer. Laser surgery usually uses a carbon dioxide laser beam to cut the tumor away from healthy tissue. The laser is used to divide the tumor into small pieces that are removed in parts until the tumor is gone. Usually surgeons try to remove tumors as a whole to avoid spreading cancer cells. With a laser beam, however, the laser energy creates heat that seals the tumor's exposed surfaces, sealing in any cancer cells.
Laser Microsurgery For Tongue Cancer Is As Effective As Invasive Open Surgery, According To New Study
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ScienceDaily (July 27, 2009) — Transoral (through-the-mouth) laser surgery to remove cancer at the base of the tongue is as effective as more invasive open surgery and may improve quality of life according to a new study by Rush University Medical Center. The study is published in the July issue of the scientific journal Otolaryngology –Head and Neck Surgery.

The study involved a retrospective chart review of 71 patients who underwent transoral laser microsurgery for squamous cell carcinoma of the base of the tongue. At 24 months, overall survival was 90 percent and disease specific survival was 94 percent. Quality-of-life data, obtained for 46 patients, revealed the majority had mild or no pain, minimally impaired to normal swallowing, and normal speech.

Historically, the tongue base could only be safely accessed through complicated open surgical approaches through the neck. Delicate structures in the neck, such as the voice box, the trachea, the esophagus, lymph nodes, muscles and large nerves make surgical resection difficult with significant complications including speech and swallowing impairment.

Advances in transoral laser microsurgery have transformed the surgeon's ability to treat cancer that was not otherwise amenable to surgical therapy. The surgery is performed through the opening of the mouth using an endoscope with a lighted camera and microscopic lens to view the area. Using a CO-2 laser and micro-staging, surgeons carefully remove the tumor in small pieces minimizing disruption to nearby tissues, thereby reducing complications and the likelihood of infections. With magnification of normal and abnormal tissue the surgery is very precise which contributes to very good cancer outcomes.

"Due to the precision of this surgery, most patients require less adjuvant chemotherapy and in some cases patients will not need chemotherapy," said Dr. Guy Petruzzelli, study author and chief of the Section of Head, Neck and Skull Base Surgery and the Charles Arthur Weaver Professor of Cancer Research at Rush University Medical Center. "And the functional outcomes are superior. Patients are able to speak and swallow much sooner and better than with an open technique." In the study, 91 percent of patients responding experienced "mild" or "no pain." Also, 97 percent had "minimal impairment" or "normal" swallowing function. In fact, no patients interviewed were using a gastrostomy tube after 18 months, with average gastrostomy use of just over three months overall. Finally, 69.6 percent of patients reported "normal" speech.

"Transoral laser surgery is an acceptable and in many cases preferred option for managing appropriately sized tumors of the back of the tongue. Its overall safety and functional outcomes are in many cases superior to traditional open surgeries and potentially high dose chemotherapy and radiation," said Petruzzelli.


Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice.

"If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally."
Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King
 
Posts: 3779 | Location: St Luke's Hospital, Bradford and Pinderfields Hospital, Wakefield | Registered: 14 December 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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hi

i cant offer any specofoc advice but i know my surgeon used a laser at some point in my operation. i never quized him really about it and i had the tumour removed with a good old scalpel but i remember him saying he "finished it off with a laser" i really should have asked more questions!!! Smiler anyway as i had normal surgery too i cant comment on the laser's side effects alone but if you are really worried get in touch with the hospital and demand some answers!

i would say may tongue was feeling "better" about a month after surgery but obviously still very sensitive so i'm sure it will start to feel better again soon.

let us know how you are coming along.

gordon


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Posts: 77 | Location: Newcastle, UK | Registered: 01 May 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Hi
Thanks for all the advice. As the cancer was only on the surface of my tongue the surgeon thought it best to use the laser. Really pleased in lots of ways as it has not had any detrimental affect on my speech. However there are days when it is very painful and I still can't chew any food on that side of my mouth.
I'm just worried about a return of the cancer though now! Not sure of the statistics but have been told it is quite high. Need to keep positive!
 
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hi saraha

that sounds good to me, at least it sounds as if the tumour hadn't got too far so you have loads to be positive about. Dont take any notice of the stats, it's hard not to but i find they just bring me down, and anyway which other stats do you trust?? stay positive and hang on in there.

you will find it painful, imagine what it feels like when you used to bite your tongue by accident? so it will take time to heal but im sure it will be ok.

keep in touch

gordon


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Posts: 77 | Location: Newcastle, UK | Registered: 01 May 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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saraha,

I had the left edge of my tongue removed December of 2008.
I know my surgeon used a laser to do it just cut the edge right off had clear margins one lymph node but I did neck ressection is how they found the lympnode since my neck was hurting anyway and did radiation due to the one lymphnode. I was given the all clear in April and November I was told it spread to my lungs.


I can give you advice based on my experence over the past year and few months.

Pam
 
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