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I am so angry after reading an article about a disabled Asylum seeker who is whining it the Disibility Now issue. WHY He says he came here to seek asylum because we (MUGS) will look after him as hes annoyed not getting help he needs. The govermenat do not look after disabled people who were born here never mind asylum seekers. How I would love to be able to seek asylum in another country where you are treated as equel does anyone know a country who will take me pay my bill, food, car and housing?? I have to live here and be verbally abused and stared at and made fun of everyday of my life and what do I get told your imaging things NOt my friendstell me when out with them people are taking the piss out of me for the way I look or try to speak. Its about time we had a goverment wholooked after its own people first and give them some kind of life. Instead of living in fear of that one deranged person who will think your an easy target. | ||
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aye aye aye, we have some amazing stories of people here illegally, never paid into our system at all but get several free services....school, medical and so on... too many to even touch........yikes..... | ||||
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Asylum-seekers “let down” by disability organisations Sunil Peck
Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice. "If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally." Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King | |||
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Oh Paul ,so sorry you are having a bad day and feeling angry . But I know where you are coming from and I agree the government need to look closely at things.People can be very selfish cruel and in certain cases deliberately hurtful, sometimes deliberately and sometimes without thinking . My Paul does not have any facial disfigurement but has problems when speaking if his mouth is playing up and not moist enough, On Occasions his mother cannot make him out and asks the same dam question every time..."whats the matter with you son,I can't understand what your saying "! mind you she is 84 but hey, she knows the problems .We find the same in restaurants also Paul, as more often than not there is a wee slip betwen the cup and the lip and people make odd faces and whisper comments . I have learned now to stare back and give one of my famed acidic smiles. In your situation if you are in the pub with friends that kind of behaviour would not be good as it would probably end up in a scuffle of sorts so I do appreciate the difficulty . Try not to let theese selfish sods get to you Paul ,life has a way of teaching that kind of mentality in people a lesson and they will come to face up to it when they least expect it . Wish we could take you out and cheer you up . Cyber hugs , Bell and Paul | ||||
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Hi Paul I can appeciate your anger. It's all well and good to think that people don't realise they are being hurtful but it still doesn't help your frustration and/or anger. I remember one instance when our son was recovering from some surgery (and it was horrible stuff) associated with his cancer. We had the opportunity to go to the beach for a break and were having a great time. Aaron was on crutches (he was 18) but was determined to hav a good time. There we were at the beach and he and his younger brothers (7 and 9) were his assistants. They were trailing crabs and the water was probably waist deep. The younger boys would keep an eye on the spot where the crabs settled in the sand and Aaron would get himself there and jam the crab down with his crutch and catch it! I thought it was very inventive and was getting a lot of pleasure out of them having a great time together (it wasn't always like that ~ a lot of tension was associated with that boys' illness!). The next thing I see is this bloke in a group just down the sand from where we were sitting and he was getting the attention of all his friends and then said "take a look at that cripple/spastic out there. What does he thik he's doing waving his crutch around?'. I swear to you it took all my self control to refrain from gathering up the other crutch and bashing him around the head with it. Instead I simply mentioned that he was getting some pleasure out of his life which was currently an ongoing battle with the effects of cancer. That shut them up but hell I'd love to have slapped him one. Prick! So Paul. Keep smiling and love the ones you love. We can't control what anyone else says, does or thinks so we just have to make sure we enjoy what we have control of. I saw a fabulous sign on a little country church which I just love ~ Love your enemies. It'll drive 'em nuts! Easier said than done ~ however. You just remember Paul that you are doing a fabulous job under dreadful conditions. You're a real champion. Love Deborah | ||||
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I am NOT having a bad day. Why do we give anything to this scum who come her to get what thy can?/ Would I get help if I seeked Aslyum in India! I rest my case. I worked and saved hard and now the goverment are screwingme for every penny why? Because I paid my taxes ? I did not scrounge off the state ?/ I was turned down for 2hours help a week to go to interviews, hospital etc where people cannot understand me??? Being disabled in this country means nothing if your not here illegally. Then all the do gooder queue up to give help. What about help for peole here and I know of many in more need tham me. Paul Paul | |||
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Dropping off the social radar
We have all worked to create a caring society in the U.K. (it is a model to others) to provide assistance to those who need it, but it isn't perfect and so sometimes things are unfair. We just need to make it better for all who are needing assistance (and I don't mean the bankers!) Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice. "If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally." Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King | |||
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Here in the US we have very similar problems. My Rotary Club spent over $100K in money and countless hours of labor to paint and rehab a building we were told was going to be used for transition housing to get local people in our community off the street and transition them into a stable life. Unfortunately, it has been filled with illegal immigrants who can now stay there for life - they have never paid a dime to help nor have any of them ever even volunteered to help us paint, hammer or landscpape. They are able bodied individuals who could at least volunteer. We still do feed the hungry every week and these same people come to eat but not clean up - once again any one can volunteer to help!! Meanwhile, my mother who suffers from MS and is in a wheelchair and has trouble telling what day it is - she has to FIGHT at every corner to get some help. Her bathroom is not set up for her - neither is the closet, the kitchen, the front door.... The county had sent her a "helper" and I found out this person was just getting my mother drunk and stealing from her. My mother paid her taxes all of her adult working life!! She should get free housing for life instead of these others!! I still volunteer there but it is sad and disheartning to see first hand how several abuse the system who have no right to be here. I know you are trying to be kind Dr. Joshi and I can apprecaite that and I admire that as i said I am a regualr voluteer but you appear to not have been on the side of begging for simple services when you have paid your taxes only to be shut out while watching others take advantage.....and suceeding.... | ||||
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I do symphasise with the disabled Asylum Seeks but we must put peole her first its no fair. I visit a coulple who live in a very damp basement flat. She is disabled and he is in a whelchair and they depend on help comming in,the husband cannot leave the flat only when the servises come to take him to hospital ect. They are confined to this damp cold basement and this as been the case of many years now. I am NOT really bothered for me but for the people who cannot or are not told how to get help and even then they feel invaded and bombarded with questions personal . Paul | |||
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I have only just seen these posts because I have been away since Sunday helping at a conference organised by and for people with learning disabilities (many of whom have physical disabilities as well). People with learning disabilities have struggled for many years to get their voices heard and to get the services they are entitled to. The theme of this years conference was "Keeping Healthy and Safe". Almost half of the people with learning disabilities at the conference said that they had been bullied while out and about in the community. Next year they are thinking of running a conference about fairness so they can look at how people with learning disabilities are treated both in this country and other countries. I did not hear any of them complain that other people were getting things instead of them; they are more concerned about fighting for the rights of all people with learning disabilities. Dr Joshi is right. We should be making things better for all people and not distinguishing between groups or picking one group off against another. It is by working together that we will win and get a society where everyone gets what they need. Best wishes to all GwynThis message has been edited. Last edited by: Gwyn Fraser, | ||||
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I think we need to keep pushing for EVERYONE with a disability to be treated fairly. If more people took action and reported all the layabouts who are healthy enough to be employed but prefer to fiddle the benefits system and work on the side there would be more money in the system for those who need help. As for the ignorant idiots who stare and make comments &*@!! em all! Just stare right back then get on with your life! I have no time for morons out on the street. If the person being rude or insensitive is in a work role - a receptionist or waiter for example - I bring it to the attention of their manager. Best wishes to all Sheila | ||||
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Hi Shelia,I agree with you comments. Its very difficult I find constantly having to say something when people look at me for whatever reason. Fact I dont bother but feel bad inside, By the time I get the words out they have gone anyway hehe Paul | |||
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Dear Paul, I can understand your feelings - but do me one favor - sit down and think for half an hour what would you have done if you were in the asylum seekers shoes. You are a good friend - and thats the only reason I decided to post. I am not bothered about what is costs or anything - but to get asylum is a dream for many. Once again I say - dont think of your self as a Britisher - but were from some third wold - would youopt to stay in your country and suffer or go to a place, where you would get treatment -not the greatest may be but enough to survive. If their countries were as good or better do you actually think they would come - or you in their place would have left your own country to start a new life and to get abused by everyone? Its just a thought. Think it over. Take care, Ananth Live on your beliefs and strength- and you will become immortal. | ||||
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