Hi there,

If you have been diagnosed with cancer or are interested in exercising total prevention from the disease, you need to get the facts on ‘laetrile’ (also known as vitamin B17 or Amygdalin).

This controversial vitamin, researched by biochemist Ernst T Krebs Jr. in the 1950s, has apparently been used to stunning effect by some of the world's most successful cancer clinics.

Laetrile, which can be found in a number of foods including ‘Apricot Kernels’ is said to be highly effective when combined with other simple but key collateral treatments and startling results have been claimed. This combined regimen is known as Metabolic Therapy, and can be used by cancer sufferers in the comfort of their own homes.

Dr Kanematsu Sugiura, arguably America’s leading cancer biochemist of the ‘70s, was given the task of researching laetrile to determine whether it could prevent or regress cancer. After a five-year series of trials Dr Sugiura announced the startling effectiveness of this treatment.

Other medical researchers have confirmed its effectiveness too, but apparently their work has been suppressed and/or undermined. However, once you understand the simple mechanics of cancer, it is easy to see why a metabolic approach to its treatment with laetrile would be so very effective.

According to a survey most oncologists would reject ANY AND ALL of their own treatments if they themselves contracted cancer.

Visit the web-site of an extraordinary man named Phillip Day, where you will read some quite astonishing facts - www.credence.org

Apricot Kernels are available on the Internet.

Good Luck

Bryan Yeubrey


CAN THE FOLLOWING DISTURBING STATEMENTS BY CONCERNED DOCTORS ETC BE TRUE?

"Most of what you have heard over your lifetime about cancer treatments is not the truth. At the very least, you have received an incomplete picture. If you believe the propaganda you have been fed and you develop cancer, it can cost you your life." – John Diamond MD, author

"To the cancer establishment, a cancer patient is a profit centre. The actual clinical and scientific evidence does not support the claims of the cancer industry. Conventional cancer treatments are in place as the law of the land because they pay, not heal, the best. Decades of the politics-of-cancer-as-usual have kept you from knowing this, and will continue to do so unless you wake up to their reality."
Lee Cowden MD, author

"...as a chemist trained to interpret data, it is incomprehensible to me that physicians can ignore the clear evidence that chemotherapy does much, much more harm than good."
Alan C Nixon, PhD, former president of the American Chemical Society

"...no disseminated neoplasm (cancer) incurable in 1975 is curable today... Many medical oncologists recommend chemotherapy for virtually any tumour, with a hopefulness undiscouraged by almost invariable failure."
Albert Braverman MD, oncologist

"In the end, there is no proof that chemotherapy in the vast majority of cases actually extends life. This is the GREAT LIE about chemotherapy, that somehow there is a correlation between shrinking a tumour and extending the life of a patient."
Dr Ralph Moss, former Assistant Director of Public Relations at leading American cancer research facility Memorial Sloan Kettering, NY

"If I contracted cancer, I would never go to a standard cancer treatment centre. Cancer victims who live far from such centres have a chance."
Professor Charles Mathe, French cancer specialist

"So this is verified, that laetrile [B17] can have this positive effect?"
Laurie Lee, Radio host

"We were finding this out and yet we in Public Affairs were told to issue statements to the exact opposite of what we were finding scientifically."
Dr Ralph Moss

Hi Bryan - thanks for that.

Just a few things:-

(a) are you a cancer patient?

(b) to be rude, you're posting does read a bit
like a sales pitch

(c) interestingly most of the supportive quotes
you provide are from profit centred medical
regimes (yes even France). Bear in mind
here in UK cancer, in all it's forms, is a
really heavy cost to the NHS.

(d) whilst I MIGHT agree that "natural"
products may delay or even halt the
developement of cancer I do feel that the
possible effectiveness of such treatments
to a developed cancer would be dependant
upon, at least, the type, location and stage
of developement of the cancer.

I should stress. of course, that I've no medical training whatsoever and can only speak from the perspective of being being a cancer patient.

In my very simplistic terms I just do not believe that at this point in time there is no cure for cancer. Whoever discovers any such which covers all types of cancer will either make a fortune or be hailed as one the savious of mankind.

OK I now await all the messages telling how wrong/misguided,gullible etc., etc. I am

Hi what i have been shouting about all along they treat you and hope for the best different for you pikeman your cancer was advanced as you said but for someone like myself who had an almost invisible cancer I bwould have rtried it wonder wat the good doc thinks

Hi All

Laetrile is a controversial topic - no evidence based trials. The NHS would be the first to opt for this preventive and miraculous treatment. Think of the misery and money we could save :wow: ! Bryan's motive for posting here about laetrile is open to question .

Read the Cancer Research UK answer to the question: "Why don't you tell people about laetrile?".

For those with the energy to investigate further try looking up the search results for laetrile from Stephen Barrett MD's Qwackwatch website. As I said, "no evidence" :ugh: but patients and family often will want try anything that purports to give hope :sigh: .

Best wishes
Vinod :coffee: izza:

Oh dear.... I feel I have just reread lots of the information I researched myself when my cancer was first diagnosed. I agree with Pikeman this does sound just like the sales pitch on many of the similar documents out on the web. Almost every article on alternative methods tries to sell some vitamin or alternative "super" product or machine for juicing.

Last year I too read with interest about laetrile. And somewhere I also read that eating almonds will do just as well from a vitamin point of content as will oven drying plum or damson pips and crushing them and adding them to cereal. I also understand too much of anything particularly certain vitamins can also be harmful.

I did try Essiac tea and it was soothing on the throat, I did try various vitamins etc., juicing and some Chinese medicine etc., etc., but all along I have felt I am a westerner and I will go with western medicine. After all as Pikeman says in the UK the treatment is free to us so make use of it.

The thing that has made me feel better has been the radiotherapy even with the long term problems. The long term problems I can live with - being dead will be harder to live with so to speak.

I am alarmed you quoted from John Diamond as he waited for ages before he let doctors remove his lump because he was afraid of general anasthaesia and of not waking up. He waited until his lump was the size of a tangerine before it was removed despite the fact he had private medical insurance. His book was the most alarming and disturbing I read. All it did was frighten me into thinking this is too too hopeless. Well maybe it's not good but it's a book I regret ever opening.

As Vinod wrote what a patient wants is hope so its possibly the only reason we trawl the web and look for alternative possibilities.

The only thing I do agree with is that everything is provided in nature among plants, the oceans and fungi etc., for a natural cure to everything. However finding that cure at a non inflated 'someone is making a fat profit cost' from all the cancer sufferers who clutch at any straw is another matter.

While this thread is a little old, I felt compelled to respond to the original post. The web is full of "cancer cures"... usually products with no peer reviewed research to suppport their claims, no doctors of any international reputation to champion them, and articles full of half truths (much more convincing and confusing than out right lies) which serve no purpose more than to separate individuals looking for hope from a devestating disease from their hard earned money. The web is an unregulated forum, and while full of great sites like this one, it it also populated by opportunists trying to make money using lies and deception to do their work. This thread does not promote correct information, and my personal belief is that rdoc.org should delete this thread in it's entirety and other posts as they appear that contain questionable information that may mislead honest people, promote false hopes in bogus treatments, drugs, or herbs.

I have read the last two messages and I think ALL these remedies and Cures are made up of peolple giving false hope to mus in a desperate place.
I have just returned from my Maxiollfacial visit and I had a PET scan and it showed two hot spots have to wait to go into hospital probally on Friday they have to cut inside my throat to get to the HOT SPOTS and biopsy them. I tell you I am scared stiff and the wait for the results is an HORENDOUS time. BUT NO remidies or cures wil pass my lips. I retriete they are out to make mooney out of the vunerable. The Doctors are very experienced and do not enter inot any surgery without a very good reason.I hope this all makes sense to some of you I am a bit wound up at the moment. My regaurds to ALL Paul

Hi Brian

Thank you for your comments. This thread is even more important now that you, Pauline and Paul have warned others.

To simply erase this thread would also erase the arguments against the initial posting. I feel it is better for the topic to be discussed and dismissed through debate by the board members themselves (it carries more credence) than for it to be ignored.

I believe that these type of posts allow us to speak out "against" the opportunists so that others can realise that the claims are unfounded. I hope that someone searching for information on "natural cures for cancer" will find this thread and the negative discussion that followed .

Best wishes
Vinod :coffee: izza:

I am glad Dr J your agree in principal in what we say the Sufferes!

My feeling Vinod is that most people capable of using a computer to access medical and cure information are just as capable of making a decision about products, diets etc., touted as cures.

If you leave the post as it is others will see that those of us who have had head and neck cancer are prepared to perhaps investigate, read , digest and listen, but not so gullible as to accept everything as fact despite our need to hope for an instant simple cure answer.

Pauline

I have personal experience of using Laetrile and know many other people that do , and lets be brutally honest , people that sell laetrile / Bitter Apricot kernels cant make the hundreds of Billions of pounds a year that the drug companies do , and I dont hear anyone slagging them off.

Where are these supposed cancer cures that they keep promising us, why are we brainwashed to beleive that man made drugs can be better than anything in nature, Its simply because our minds are trained that way.

I have my own mind and I plan on using it , to be honest doctors know Anything about nutrition and that is the reason that so many people are dying of cancer, becuase of poor nutrition and eating all the toxic chemicalsd that arte put into our food, we need a totally new look on cancer , one where the drug companies dont make hundreds of billion pounds a year.

Thanks for your time

Gavin

Read the Cancer Research UK answer to the question: "Why don't you tell people about laetrile?".

For those with the energy to investigate further try looking up the search results for laetrile from Stephen Barrett MD's Qwackwatch website. As I said, "no evidence" but patients and family often will want try anything that purports to give hope .

Quackwatch, what a load of rubbish , Doctors are trained to be sales reps for the drug companies that is all they are . As for the cancer charities all they basically are are funding arms for the drug companies and lets be honest where are there cures for cancer!!!! What I have read about laetrile / Vitamin B17 is as encouraging if not more so than anything I have ever read about cancer and to be honest thats quite alot.



Millions of people keep on dying ,year after year of cancer and there will never be a mainstream cure for cancer because if the drug companies suddenly came out with a cure for cancer they would make a lot of money in the short term and none in the long term and this is what all these people are interested in MONEY and the sooner people realise this the better

In my humble opinion and thats what it is an opinion Natural Therapies are our only hope.

And as for philip Day I have read his stuff and he is obviously a very well educated man who realised the truth that the medical establishment is failing us all every day of every year .

Gavinuk, aren't you a salesman? Please stop spamming our message board. Thanks.

Yes I agree Vinod what a coincidence that Gavin is for a product he sells!! He must think cancer stops one having rational thought and reading between the lines.

It's quite clear that the only person who will truly benefit from Laetrile here is Gavin as he he spams this board to make sales.

Also one reason 1 in 3 people are diagnosed with cancer is quite simply that other diseases like TB, polio, typhoid, cholera, etc have become erradicated or highly managed so as we age we get something else. Usually heart disease/strokes or cancer.