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hi. 1st off, Sorry for the length of the message. I first noticed a hard lump on the roof of my mouth (hard palate) about 2 months ago. It begins just behind the ridges at the front of my mouth. The first part is about 1cm long and about 5mm wide; there are two or three tiny round lumps around it (no more than 2mm in diameter. The second part is about 25mm long and only about 2mm wide; it runs straight down the center of my hard palate. The hole thing is very hard and is the normal color of the roof of my mouth. I have had a foul taste in my mouth for two months, but not noticably bad breath. I also have a very slightly loose front tooth which is strangely, only loose about 30% of the time. I have also just developed swollen glands and a sore throat, although my GP says she can see an infection there and has prescribed penecillin. She also says that she does not think this is cancer. I am 27, have smoked fairly heavily (10-15 roll ups a day) for 10 years (not anymore though!!), drink quite a bit at the weekends.
Does this sound like cancer? Any advice would be gratefully recieved as this is driving me crazy... I'm waiting for an appointment at maxillo- facial.
Thanks. Boyd.
 
Posts: 3 | Location: lincoln uk | Registered: 20 August 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Good Morning Boyd,
You are quite right to see the maxillo facial people ,they are the experts and the will know what the problem is and how to treat it.The number of people diagnosed with oral carcinoma per year in a city the size of Lincoln will be in the order of 3,but whilst the incidence is small no one can afford to take the risk,so you are doing the smart thing.But in the meantime don't worry about it----I know,easier said than done.The other smart thing in your posting is that you quit smoking,good for you!please let us know how you get on with the experts.
Keep Smiling Razzer
John
 
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Thanks for your reply John, it is much appreciated. Good advice also, although you're right about it being easier said than done not to panic.
I was hoping that i might be able to get Doctor Joshi's thoughts on my situation if possible???
Thanks
Boyd.
 
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Good afternoon Boyd,
Dr. Joshi is consultant at two large hospitals in this area so this keeps him quite busy and at the moment I believe he has extra duties so it may be a few days before he gets back to you.Don't dispair,instead of studying only the serious side of this web site take a look at the "light humour"forum for a change it may bring a smile to your face.
Keep Smiling Razzer
John
 
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Hello Boyd

There is a bump of extra bone called a torus that is normally present in the midline of the hard palate, it may be minimal or very enlarged. For more information and pictures of normal appearances, please see Fig. 1.24 and Fig. 1.25 in this article called Examination Technique with Normal Findings and Structures Mistaken for Disease. Click for more! So, it could just be a normal structure, you have just noticed recently. Let us hope so.

If you are worried, do go and see your dentist for an opinion.

Best wishes
Vinod Coffee


Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice.

"If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally."
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Thank you Dr Joshi.
I can see from what john has said, and from the number of posts you make here that you are very busy, so i appreciate you taking the time to reply to me. If you get chance to comment on some further points i would be grateful.
Having researched this a bit myself i thought it may be torus; but the images i have seen are always spherical and what i have is long and thin with small spherical lumps close by? Also I think what has really concerned me is the sore throat and swollen submandibular... but if this is an infection as my GP says, then am I right in thinking that this is not symptomatic of cancer anyway (since a sore throat with oral cancer is because the cancer is spreading to the lymph nodes)?

Thank you once again,
Boyd.

P.S i have made a dentists app. as well as maxillo-facial (buts its along wait when you're so anxious)
 
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Hello Boyd

The torus can present with different shapes. The smaller ones are only a narrow linear ridge in the midline. Your sore throat has nothing to do with the torus, and most probably a throat infection that should clear within 3 weeks with the antibiotics given provided you are not irrritating it with smoking or reducing your body's resistance with drinking and lack of sleep. Banghead

A loose tooth need looking at - it is either a dead tooth or has lost bone support owing to gum disease. All of these potential sources of infection can give rise to swollen lymph nodes.

See you doctor/dentist as appropriate.

Best wishes
Vinod Coffee


Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice.

"If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally."
Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King
 
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Hi There,

I am new to this and this is my first post. I first noticed a lump on the roof of my mouth around 10 months ago. However didn't give it much thought, yesterday I noticed it again with my tongue, if I press it with my finger i can feel some discomfort. Now the lump itself is around 3 mm in diameter and its of the same colouring as the rest of my mouth. I am a 28yr old male, smoke occasionally on the week-end and drink at the week-ends. I have been researching on the web and getting a little parannoid. Any clues anyone?
 
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Hello dd1980

Please see your dentist for an opinion as it is not (thanks HelpingDad, I was tired!) possible to give you a diagnosis over the Internet. Do let us know how you get on.

Best wishes
Vinod Coffee

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Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice.

"If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally."
Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King
 
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he meant to say NOT possible...Dr Joshi works hard and is tired Big Grin
 
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I am new to this..... i am 23 yrs of age and smoker for past five years.. i am ulcer patient too... i reduced smoking in last year in the process of quiting smoking... and smoke two to three cigarettes a day... and i left smoking last month.... a month ago i had noted a lump on my upper mouth.... which is 0.5 cm in height....i have sore throat.... and my mouth started irritation in my upper mouth and tongue.... two weeks ago i consulted ENT specialist and got tablets from him... after that irritation has gone... but that lump remains.... in left side a tooth is paining.... doctor said that it was "hard palate"....i am still in the fear that it may be cancer.... can anyone tell that clearly what it could be.... is these are cancer symptoms????
 
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Good morning Guru,
quitting smoking was a real smart thing to do, but don't ever be tempted to try just one more otherwise you will soon be back on the weed full time again, you have had your last cigarette....keep it that way. The only person who can tell you what the lump might be is a qualified person who has seen the lump.You say you are having a problem with a tooth, so see your dentist to get this fixed and whilst you are there ask him to take a look at the lump.Dentists spend all their lives peering into peoples mouths and are very familiar with what should and should not be there.Quite often dentists are better at diagnosing mouth problems than doctors.
Make an appointment today to see your dentist don't wait until next week or when it is convenient. Delay often turns minor problems into major problems.
Keep Smiling
John
 
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