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Morbidity of the neck after head and neck cancer therapy.
Van Wilgen CP, Dijkstra PU, Van Der Laan BF, Plukker JT, Roodenburg JL. Department of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery, University Hospital Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands. from Head Neck 2004 Sep;26(9):785-91
I would be interested in our members experiences of this, as these problems may not be getting the management deserved. The poll below will help outline the extent of the problem. Thanks. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dr Vinod K Joshi, Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice. "If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally." Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King |
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I would like to respond to the poll but as I haven't had radiotherapy I cannot answer some of the questions, therefore it won't accept the answers I do give. If I answer every question won't this will distort the findings?
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Thanks for that feedback, Brenda. I have modified the poll to allow for those who have not had radiotherapy or neck dissection.
Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice. "If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally." Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King |
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Dear Dr Vinod, backing the car is difficult because of turning my neck, also frozen left shoulder, which has been most painful.
Garance |
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Like Garance, parking of the car is difficult. And when I am going into town I choose a route with as few junctions involiving head-turning as possible. This is two years after laryngectomy.
Rosalie |
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Good Morning Garance & Rosalie
I also have the frozen neck/shoulder problem and for a while I would not drive because of the parking difficulties. My answer to this was to fit a rear proximity detection device, one of those contraptions which bleeps when there is something close behind, mine has an indicator which shows the distance to the nearest object behind. To reverse park I lower the door mirrors so that I can see the white lines ,or pavement edge, and use only the mirrors I make no attempt to turn my head. With the aid of this gadget I changed from being a lifelong failure at reverse parking to an expert in the space of a couple of weeks, I can put the car central between the white lines of a parking bay and six inches from the nearest object behind ( even if it is only a cat refusing to surrender territory--as cats do) The gadget cost£40 but i don't know what the fitting cost would be (i installed mine myself) If you are in any doubt about using only the mirrors watch a driver park an artic.he won't turn round. let me know if you want any details about the device. Keep Smiling John |
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Hi fellow drivers!
I am in the process of learning to be driving instructor. I had to take and advanced driving test just after Christmas. To make my manouvres easier I have a very large rearview mirror. I still had to turn my neck (very uncomfortable!) to show that I was "safe" but the large mirror is a godsend for normal driving and reverse parking. As you say John, it can all be done with mirrors! Anne W |
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John,
I also angle my electric mirrors down to check where the white line is when parking, as I think that it is safer to reverse into a parking space, so that you don't have to reverse out. For a long time I complained bitterly about the extremely poor visibility in my car, a 2 seater convertible, because the roof blocked of so much of my view of the road. It's only since I have found it easier to turn my head that I have realised that really the majority of the problem was that I couldn't move very well, so I couldn't lean forwards to see better, or look out of the back window. I even considered trading my car in for a different model. I don't know why it never occured to me that the problems I was having were associated with the radiotherapy. I lost a great deal of confidence in myself, and in my driving ability, which is only slowly returning. My husband is looking at fitting aspheric glass for my mirrors. Aspheric glass is curved at the outside edge of the mirror, thereby extending the field of vision. It is worth asking your garage if they do this glass for your car. It is not available for mine, but as my husband works in the industry he is hoping to be able to put together something to fit my car. Jenni |
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Good Evening Jenni,
Thanks for your tip about aspheric glass but I really do manage very well with the bleeper, the main mirror and two door mirrors angled downwards.When it comes to gadgetry my wife tends to back off, she thinks my cash machine (speed camera)detector is not playing the game and she prefers to guess which way to turn rather than take note of the sat nav but she thinks the proximity detector is a wonderfull idea and she trusts it implicitly. The door mirrors in our car have the outer 25% angled outwards to increase the field of vision so I suppose we are halfway to aspheric. I was spared radiation but I still have the neck and shoulder problems due to the incision which started behind the right ear down to the shoulder, turning at a right angle to the centre line of the throat and curving upwards to the chin, the usual carpentry when they want to remove all the lymph nodes and most of the jaw.I can well imagine the additional problems caused by radiation.The best therapy I have found is a glass of red wine, it dulls the shoulder pain, helps to avoid lightning strikes and wards off herds of marauding toadstools.I open a bottle at 8pm and I have just noticed it is quarter past so I will wish a pleasant evening Jenni. Keep Smiling John |
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Of the 28 participants so far who did the poll:
We can see that side effects of treatment are common. Jaw pain after radiotherapy appears common while shoulder pain after neck dissection appears common. 75% of participants did not get help to manage their side effects better This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dr Vinod K Joshi, Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice. "If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally." Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King |
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updated above figures today ... thanks for participating
Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice. "If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally." Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King |
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Pain Predicts Survival After Head and Neck Cancer Treatment
From Medscape Medical News, by Nick Mulcahy
Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice. "If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally." Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King |
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I might be being a bit silly, but I found the questions a bit unclear about when the pain was being monitored.
For instance with pain after radiotherapy - day after the first dose - No. Day after the last dose - Certainly. A year after the last treatment - No. So which answer was being sought? |
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This is not cheering me up! I had loads of pain after the neck dissection 5 years ago and am having loads of pain after the recent radiotherapy. I have had three lots of mouth cancer. Does this mean I've had it then? Can someone just clarify what all this actually means or should I just start ordering the funeral?
Of course I shall be ignoring this unless someone can actually tell me how it helps! |
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The higher level of pain was associated with younger age at diagnosis, worse general physical and mental health, and higher levels of depressive symptoms, as well as 5-year survival rate and recurrence within the first year. It just means that increasing pains during the first 12 months following treatment could be due to a recurrence. That would seem obvious. It doesn't refer to the chronic pain that head and neck cancer patients experience. Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice. "If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally." Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King |
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