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NICE have given a preliminary negative recommendation for the use of Erbitux + radiotherapy.
As some of you may have heard, NICE has recently published the first draft of its guidance on the use of Erbitux in combination with radiation therapy for the treatment of locally or regionally advanced squamous cell carcinoma of the head and neck.This initial draft recommends that the treatment should NOT be funded on the NHS. As we all know, there have been very few developments in the treatment of head and neck cancer over the years, so any treatment options are very important to those who could benefit. Furthermore, Erbitux has been approved for use in Scotland as well as Europe. So should this draft guidance remain unchanged, then people with head and neck cancer in England and Wales will be denied access to a treatment which is available in other areas of the UK. I am sure that you will feel as strongly as I do that it is important that we speak out on the behalf of patients who have experienced cancer of the head and neck or who may be affected by it in the future. 24 of you voted for it being made available when I sought your views for submission to the Scottish Medicines Consortium which has approved it for patients in Scotland. The draft is open to public consultation until 5pm on 26th February. So if you believe, like me, that it is important for patients to have access to this medicine, please register your views on this to NICE directly through this link. All the feedback on the draft which is submitted to NICE during this time is taken into account by its committee before the Guidance is issued. Additionally, any comments that you would like to share with the Mouth cancer Foundation on this issue would be most welcome and will be taken into account in the charity’s response to NICE. Best wishes Vinod This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dr Vinod K Joshi, Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice. "If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally." Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King |
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C,mon everybody, lets get this signed & off to this dreadful committee who hold lives in their hands. Thanks Vinod for bringing this to our attention.
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My father was on Erbitux and it made his face break out like acne in the end this type of treatment did not work. This treatment does not work on all people unfortunatley
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I had Erbitux and radiation 12 weeks ago. I interfaced with other head and neck cancer patients that were ahead of me in recovery at a time when Erbitux was not available. These patients went through horrendous complications from regular chemotherapy. The side effects of Erbitux are minimal in comparison. The statistics in the U.S. for 5yr plus survival outweigh the original therapy.
Any treatment is not 100% guaranteed but if the regimin and testing that our government puts new medications through has found this to be more beneficial statistically I cannot understand holding back on the release in England. What does this committee have to substatiate non approval? Sandra |
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Hello Sandra
Our overall view on the draft is that the NICE committee has not looked at this in a pragmatic way or from the patients’ point of view. By denying access to this treatment, NICE does not truly understand the issues that are important to patients. As NICE points out, the trial involving Erbitux resulted in robust findings that are very significant to patients in England and Wales with regard to the fact they will live months longer and will have an alternative should they not be able to tolerate chemoradiotherapy. NICE also notes that the treatment is cost effective. We need to appeal to health professionals and patients to feedback to NICE on this draft guidance, which if unchanged, would deny access to the only new medicine in Head and Neck Cancer in many years for patients in England and Wales. There are a small number of patients with Head and Neck Cancer who are set to lose a large amount if we do not act now. Best wishes Vinod This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dr Vinod K Joshi, Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice. "If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally." Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King |
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I had to go ont never had Erbitux so cannot comment
But when i had Radiotherapy and my mouth was blistered and bleeding plus the swelling they still forced on the mask I asked many times for omething to reliee the pain specially in my mouth you would have thought I was the only person having problem with radiotherapy apul |
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I am a member of the Oral Cancer Foundation Group and i have seen this treatment mentioned in posts many many times by oral cancer sufferers in the United States.I find the differences between available medications and treatments quite astounding ,and i if am not mistaken drugs have to undergo rigorous testing before they become available for use in America.Surely this must mean that it is of benefit in treatment of oral cancer and as such should be available to everyone no matter what country you live in.
Love liz Never take your eye off the ball it may just smack you in the mouth |
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ASCO: Cetuximab Plus Platinum Extends Head and Neck Cancer Survival
CHICAGO June 2 2007
See also: Study: Erbitux prolongs cancer survival This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dr Vinod K Joshi, Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice. "If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally." Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King |
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Thanks to all who supported us. Best wishes Vinod This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dr Vinod K Joshi, Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice. "If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally." Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King |
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That's fantastic!
Lets hope they see sense! -~*Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds*~- ...Albert Einstein |
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Appraisal Committee's preliminary recommendations
Note that this document does not constitute the Institute's formal guidance on this technology. The recommendations made in Section 1 are preliminary and may change after consultation. Ref: http://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/index.jsp?action=folder&o=39184 The key dates for this appraisal are: Closing date for comments: 4 March 2008 Next Appraisal Committee meeting: 12 March 2008 Related News:
This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dr Vinod K Joshi, Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice. "If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally." Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King |
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Dear Mr Powell Thank you for giving the Mouth Cancer Foundation the opportunity to respond to the Appraisal consultation document (ACD) and the supporting Evaluation Report (ER) on Cetuximab for the treatment of recurrent and/or metastatic squamous cell cancer of the head and neck. The Mouth Cancer Foundation is disappointed with the preliminary recommendation of the Appraisal Committee not to recommend the use of Cetuximab in combination with platinum-based chemotherapy for the treatment of recurrent and/or metastatic squamous cell cancer of the head and neck. Here are our comments on the ACD, in response to the following general questions: i. i. Do you consider that all of the relevant evidence has been taken into account? ii. ii. Do you consider that the summaries of clinical and cost effectiveness are reasonable interpretations of the evidence, and that the preliminary views on the resource impact and implications for the NHS are appropriate? The Mouth Cancer Foundation considers that while the relevant evidence has been taken into account, the ERG's reasoning is faulty in its interpretation of the material it considered. It appears to be biased and adversarial to material evidence in the manufacturer's submission. Our more detailed comments, keyed to various sections in the ACD, are below: 3.12 As a patient organisation, we would be disappointed if the manufacturer had not submitted clinical evidence to support the use of cetuximab plus platinum-based chemotherapy for the first-line treatment of patients with recurrent and/or metastatic SCCHN if its evidence shows that the added use of cetuximab improves outcome. Why does the ERG consider this a problem? The ERG states that patients in the EXTREME trial may be younger and fitter (indicated by very high KPS scores) than patients with recurrent and/or metastatic SCCHN in the UK. However, perusal of the age categories in Table 4.6 of participants in the EXTREME trial shows that 82.4% were <65 years and 17.6% were >65 years. We would not read this to mean patients in the trial were younger unless ERG thinks those between 55 -64 are young! Our experience with patient members reflects very much the picture that most Head and Neck cancer patients are not over 65 years. There are increasing numbers of cases of younger patients in their 20’s – 40’s with recurrent and/or metastatic SCCHN and they should have access to this treatment that can prolong their life. The ERG also expresses concern that no evidence was provided by the manufacturer to support the use of cetuximab plus platinum-based chemotherapy in patients with recurrent and/or metastatic SCCHN who were not cetuximab-naive. Is ERG not aware that the use of cetuximab for Head and Neck cancer patients is relatively new and not routinely available to them? One should expect that most patients with recurrent and/or metastatic SCCHN would inevitably be cetuximab-naive. The ERG highlighted that for several subgroups, including metastatic disease, there appeared to be no survival benefit from cetuximab plus platinum-based chemotherapy. The corollary is that there is a survival benefit for some subgroups. As a patient organisation, we expect the ERG to support the use of cetuximab for these groups of patients but do not find the ERG doing this. 3.13 We feel that the ERG's own critique of the economic model submitted by the manufacturer is badly flawed. The ERG felt that the average BSA value of 1.7m2 used was incorrect and worked out a higher mean BSA of 1.83m2 to use in their own model from a 'recent survey of three UK cancer centres.' The reference (no 20) given in its Evaluation Report is to a BMJ awareness article on "Squamous Cell Carcinomas of the Head and Neck", not a survey. However, the average UK male BMA is 1.98 (based on average height of 178cm and weight of 80kg) and the average UK female BMA is 1.72 (based on average height of 162cm and weight of 67kg) and the average of the two gives 1.85. However derived, we would like to know if this 'survey' was of (1) Head and Neck cancer patients and (2) whether their BSA was recorded after initial treatment (surgery, radiotherapy) or before. Our patient members' experience is that they lost a lot of their normal weight after surgery and radiotherapy and their BSA was most definitely below the average UK male or female figure. 3.14 We feel that for rarer cancers like recurrent and/or metastatic SCCHN where patient numbers are smaller, the ERG should not readily dismiss data presented by saying that "some of the subgroups were too small to yield reliable projection models, casting doubt on the credibility of the cost-effectiveness results for those subgroups." If so dismissed, rarer cancers will always be disadvantaged by the approach employed. We submit that exploratory analysis done using the ERG model amendments on all the patient subgroups were flawed and its conclusion that the use of cetuximab plus chemotherapy may not be cost effective at any price is perverse. iii. Do you consider that the provisional recommendations of the Appraisal Committee are sound and constitute a suitable basis for the preparation of guidance to the NHS? The Mouth Cancer Foundation is of the opinion that the Appraisal Committee's decision is unsound especially when it says in the ACD that: 4.2 Overall the Committee accepted the evidence from the clinical specialists that the results of the EXTREME trial would be applicable to the UK population. 4.3 The Committee accepted that the trial demonstrated the efficacy of cetuximab plus platinum-based chemotherapy in patients with recurrent and/or metastatic SCCHN 4.4 The clinical specialists and a patient expert advised the Committee that the adverse events reported for the trial were consistent with those seen in clinical The practice where cetuximab had been used for locally advanced SCCHN and colorectal cancer. The Mouth Cancer Foundation hopes that the Appraisal Committee's will reconsider its decision as the concerns raised by the ERG in relation to its exploratory analyses undertaken by the ERG using alternative assumptions and parameters in the economic model (see section 3.16) are flawed. It is important that the Appraisal Committee recognise that oncologists who provide the treatment always consider the individual patient on a case-by-case-basis as not all patients will be suitable for this treatment. We are not sure if the model of costs reflects this. iv. Are there any equality related issues that need special consideration that are not covered in the ACD? The Mouth Cancer Foundation considers that all the following criteria in the supplementary advice from the Institute when appraising treatments which may be life-extending for these patients with short life expectancy, and which are licensed for indications affecting small numbers of patients with incurable illnesses, were met: o The treatment is indicated for patients with a short life expectancy, normally less than 24 months. o No alternative treatment with comparable benefits is available through the NHS. o The treatment is licensed, or otherwise indicated, for small patient populations. o In addition, when taking these into account the Committee must be persuaded that the estimates of the extension to life are robust and the assumptions used in the reference case economic modelling are plausible, objective and robust. o There is sufficient evidence to indicate that the treatment offers an extension to life, normally of at least an additional 3 months, compared with current NHS treatment. We would argue that the criteria that the treatment offers an extension to life, normally of at least an additional 3 months, compared with current NHS treatment is only guidance and so should be applied flexibly. The Committee observed that the trial data suggest that cetuximab plus platinum-based chemotherapy extends survival relative to platinum-based chemotherapy alone. The EXTREME trial showed a statistically significant increase in median overall survival for cetuximab plus chemotherapy of 2.7 months or 81 days. It would be perverse if this treatment is denied just because patients in the trial failed to live for an additional 9 days longer in order to meet this criteria. This is the first time in 30 years that a study has shown an increase in overall survival for these patients. The Committee should consider that the magnitude of this benefit is in keeping with the spirit of the supplementary advice for consideration of life-extending, end-of-life treatments. The Committee should conclude that cetuximab for recurrent and/or metastatic SCCHN be recommended. The Mouth Cancer Foundation feels that it is important that clinicians are able to provide this current treatment modality if they decided it as most appropriate for their patient. Kind regards Vinod -- Dr Vinod K Joshi BDS(Singapore) DRDRCS(Edinburgh) FDSRCPS(Glasgow) FDSRCS(England) Consultant in Restorative Dentistry Restorative Dentistry Oncology Clinic St Luke’s Hospital, Bradford Pinderfields Hospital, Wakefield United Kingdom Founder and Chief Executive Mouth Cancer Foundation Disclaimer: Please see your own dentist/doctor for a proper diagnosis as my words should not, in any circumstances, be taken as dental/medical advice. "If you see what is small as it sees itself, and accept what is weak for what strength it has, and use what is dim for the light it gives, then all will go well. This is called Acting Naturally." Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King |
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